I can't figure out what, exactly, makes for victory in the minds of the folks insistent on sending American soldiers to die. There were points in time in both countries, such as when Bush said mission accomplished, where it would have made a lot of sense to wrap it up and go home, but apparently nation building is a very tempting exercise, despite their continual failure at it. Make a general show of handing power over to the local tribal leadership and ditch attempts at making big governments in lands where people prefer not to have them!
Advice that applies here, as well.
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